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IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the IESG Teleconference
September 21st, 1992
Reported by: Steve Coya
This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.
For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
iesg-secretary@nri.reston.va.us
Attendees:
Almquist, Philip / Consultant
Borman, David / Cray Research
Coya, Steve / CNRI
Crocker, Steve / TIS
Davin, Chuck / Bellcore
Gross, Philip / ANS
Hinden, Robert / SUN
Hobby, Russ / UC-Davis
Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
Regrets
Crocker, Dave / TBO
Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
1) Following a warm and neighborly greeting, it was decided that the
minutes of September 10 and 14 are to be edited and resubmitted to IESG
for review.
2) TCP/IP Header Compression: Dave Borman reported that he had received
responses to his queries, and that he is reviewing them.
3) SNMP over OSI, SNMP over Appletalk and SNMP over IPX were approved
for recommendation to the IAB as proposed standards.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send recommendation to the IAB to publish the SNMP
over OSI, SNMP over Appletalk and SNMP over IPX documents as Proposed
Standards.
4. The BGP default route document has been edited, submitted and
announced as an Internet Draft, and is ready to move forward.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a LAST CALL for BGP default Route to the ietf
announcement list.
5. IDENT
Some edits are being made to the document. One the new version is
received, a second last call will be issued. Two weeks following that,
it will be recommended to the IAB that IDENT be accepted as a Proposed
Standard.
Steve Crocker to provide text for minutes of September 10 meeting.
The IDENT MIB is ready to go forward.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- After the IDENT protocol is approved by the IESG,
send a recommendation to the IAB that the IDENT MIB be accepted as a
Proposed Standard.
6. There was an extended discussion on the advisability and
desirability of moderating the IETF discussion list. Much of the
discussion focused on the mechanics of moderating the list, and whether
or not individual should be prevented from sending mail to the
discussion list. It was generally accepted that whatever is done, it
must be announced prior to implementation.
ACTION: Coya/Vaudreuil -- Look into mechanisms to intecept messages
before they go to the list. General switch that can quickly be turned
on.
7. The IESG discussed Sender-Initiated File Transfer (SIFT), a document
submitted as an Informational RFC. The need for such a facility was
discussed, and it was decided to initiate discussions with the author.
ACTION: Hobby -- Send a note to the author of the SIFT protocol.
Determine what features are missing from FTP that SIFT handles, and
whether FTP be enhanced to meet the community needs.
8. Russ Hobby mentioned in passing that he was married over the
weekend. Congratulations Russ!
9. The Reynolds/Hobby "Package" of an architeture and four WGs was
approved. In addition to sending the announcement of the WGs to the
ietf, both RIPE and RARE should be copied, espeically since the package
contains a cohesive architecture.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send out the entire Information architecture
package to the ietf. Copy RIPE and RARE, and include statement which
highlights existance of architecture.
10. It was stated that Remote Conferencing (remconf) was NOT to become
a working group. The members of the BOF have been focusing in writing
an architectural document, and are expected to submit it as an
Internet-Draft. It is anticipated that, as a result of the
architecture, a number of working groups will be formed to work on the
items identified within the architecture.
11. There was continued discussion on the subject of improving the
quality of work performed by the WG/IESG. Briefly discussed was whether
the Secretariat tracking information should be included in the
recommendation to the IAB, which lead into a discussion on the quality
of the WG data maintained, specifically noting the charters and
milestones and their relation to reality. There was not enough time to
sufficiently review Phill's message to the POISED WG on Quality
Control, and this discussion will continue at the next IESG
teleconference.
A concern of "not the whole story provided" was raised to the
suggestion that administrative data be included in the IAB
Recommendation. Consensus seemed to indicate a need for tracking each
and every step (chronological audit trail) of an item as it goes
through the IESG, resulting in a stand-alone historical package at
completion of effort.
Phill wants to make statement of positive steps being taken.
ACTION: Coya/Vaudreuil -- Look into what information is carried and
what needs to be done to establish a protocol standards track audit
trail.
Appendix -- Action Items --------
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send recommendation to the IAB to publish the SNMP
over OSI, SNMP over Appletalk and SNMP over IPX documents as Proposed
Standards.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a LAST CALL for BGP default Route to the ietf
announcement list.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- After the IDENT protocol is approved by the IESG,
send a recommendation to the IAB that the IDENT MIB be accepted as a
Proposed Standard.
ACTION: Coya/Vaudreuil -- Look into mechanisms to intecept messages
before they go to the list. General switch that can quickly be turned
on.
ACTION: Hobby -- Send a note to the author of the SIFT protocol.
Determine what features are missing from FTP that SIFT handles, and
whether FTP be enhanced to meet the community needs.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send out the entire Information architecture
package to the ietf. Copy RIPE and RARE, and include statement which
highlights existance of architecture.
ACTION: Coya/Vaudreuil -- Look into what information is carried and
what needs to be done to establish a protocol standards track audit
trail.